Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call - Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Hello RosEXEC,
There were three people that had a slight time problem so if it is OK with the rest of you we'll start 45 min later. So same date (Monday June 2) but at 4:15 PM.
I will log on at 3:30 PM just in case someone does not get this Email or if someone needs to communicate something to the group but cannot make it at the later time - trying to be as accommodating as possible. I appreciate your patience and service.
Below are the instructions for logging in to the conference system - they have not changed from last time. Talk to you then.
All the best, Gennaro
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ARGENTINA 0800-777-0515
AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4883 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7754 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5264 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8123 1-800-659-380
AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-120 0800-005-266
BELGIUM 32-2-400-9824 0800-3-8744
BRAZIL 0800-8911988
CHILE 1230-020-2638
CHINA* 10800-712-1677
10800-120-1677
COLOMBIA 01800-9-156477
CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-73 800-700-235
DENMARK 45-7014-0300 8088-8304
FINLAND 358-106-33-205 0-800-9-14607
FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-76-74-24-94 080-563-6110
GERMANY 49-69-2222-4873 0800-664-4254
GREECE 30-80-1-100-0698 00800-12-7310
HONG KONG 852-2286-5729 800-933-921
HUNGARY 06-800-13830
INDIA 000-800-852-1264
INDONESIA 001-803-011-3973
IRELAND 353-1-247-5678 1800-992-935
ISRAEL 1-80-9216159
ITALY 39-02-3600-6016 800-986-993
JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4783 0044-22-132424
JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5187 0044-22-132424
LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1384
MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3069
MEXICO 001-866-295-6360
NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8596 0800-023-1812
NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4767 0800-450-789
NORWAY 47-21-590-072 800-15308
PANAMA 011-001-800-5072111
POLAND 00-800-1212569
PORTUGAL 8008-14054
RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0114011
SINGAPORE 65-6883-9226 800-120-4675
SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-39
SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80424
SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1079 00798-14800-7189
SPAIN 34-91-414-25-40 800-300-060
SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-397 0200-884-614
SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6402 0800-120-039
TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7375 00801-137-796
THAILAND 001-800-1206-66050
UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9039 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3239 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2139 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-3043-2499 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1439 0808-238-6019
URUGUAY 000-413-598-3460
USA 1-517-466-2232 866-692-3582
VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3782
Gennaro Fazio, PhD Apple Rootstock Breeder and Geneticist Plant Genetic Resources Unit USDA ARS Cornell University - 630 W. North St. Geneva, NY 14456 (315) 787-2480 Office (315) 787-2216 Fax
Dear Gennaro,
This becomes too late for me.
Hope all of yuo will have fruitfull thoughts on this great challenge, which has the promise to exceeds RosCAP in size and impact. This US initiative might even be multiplied if it can be used to initiate similar initiatives is other continents.
Succes in determining a time slot,
Eric
________________________________
From: Gennaro Fazio [mailto:gf35@cornell.edu] Sent: Sat 5/31/2008 8:39 PM To: rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; 'Amit Dhingra'; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; 'Jim Luby'; Volk, Gayle; 'Sue Gardiner'; 'Jasper Rees'; 'Dan Sargent (EMR)'; Weg, Eric van de Cc: 'Bert Abbott'; 'Chad Finn'; 'Schuyler Korban'; 'Peace, Cameron'; tom.davis@unh.edu; 'Folta, Kevin M.'; Norelli, Jay; GVanSickle@caltreefruit.com; 'Stan Hokanson'; 'Main, Doreen'; amdandekar@ucdavis.edu Subject: Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call - Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Hello RosEXEC,
There were three people that had a slight time problem so if it is OK with the rest of you we'll start 45 min later. So same date (Monday June 2) but at 4:15 PM.
I will log on at 3:30 PM just in case someone does not get this Email or if someone needs to communicate something to the group but cannot make it at the later time - trying to be as accommodating as possible. I appreciate your patience and service.
Below are the instructions for logging in to the conference system - they have not changed from last time. Talk to you then.
All the best, Gennaro
PARTICIPANT ACCESS INFORMATION:
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PARTICIPANT PASSCODE: 2402523
TO JOIN A CONFERENCE
1) You must use a touch-tone phone to participate in an Instant Meeting
Conference.
2) Dial the appropriate access number
3) Enter numeric passcode followed by a "#"
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Click http://www.mymeetings.com/audioconferencing/globalAccessFAQ.php for information on specific country access dialing.
Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number
ARGENTINA 0800-777-0515
AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4883 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7754 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5264 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8123 1-800-659-380
AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-120 0800-005-266
BELGIUM 32-2-400-9824 0800-3-8744
BRAZIL 0800-8911988
CHILE 1230-020-2638
CHINA* 10800-712-1677
10800-120-1677
COLOMBIA 01800-9-156477
CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-73 800-700-235
DENMARK 45-7014-0300 8088-8304
FINLAND 358-106-33-205 0-800-9-14607
FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-76-74-24-94 080-563-6110
GERMANY 49-69-2222-4873 0800-664-4254
GREECE 30-80-1-100-0698 00800-12-7310
HONG KONG 852-2286-5729 800-933-921
HUNGARY 06-800-13830
INDIA 000-800-852-1264
INDONESIA 001-803-011-3973
IRELAND 353-1-247-5678 1800-992-935
ISRAEL 1-80-9216159
ITALY 39-02-3600-6016 800-986-993
JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4783 0044-22-132424
JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5187 0044-22-132424
LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1384
MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3069
MEXICO 001-866-295-6360
NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8596 0800-023-1812
NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4767 0800-450-789
NORWAY 47-21-590-072 800-15308
PANAMA 011-001-800-5072111
POLAND 00-800-1212569
PORTUGAL 8008-14054
RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0114011
SINGAPORE 65-6883-9226 800-120-4675
SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-39
SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80424
SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1079 00798-14800-7189
SPAIN 34-91-414-25-40 800-300-060
SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-397 0200-884-614
SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6402 0800-120-039
TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7375 00801-137-796
THAILAND 001-800-1206-66050
UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9039 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3239 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2139 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-3043-2499 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1439 0808-238-6019
URUGUAY 000-413-598-3460
USA 1-517-466-2232 866-692-3582
VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3782
Gennaro Fazio, PhD Apple Rootstock Breeder and Geneticist Plant Genetic Resources Unit USDA ARS Cornell University - 630 W. North St. Geneva, NY 14456 (315) 787-2480 Office (315) 787-2216 Fax
Hello RosEXEC,
Excellent discussion yesterday. In our next conference call I suggest we try to focus on resolving some specific questions. Here are my top 3:
1. Will the FY08 NRI RoseCAP be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program ? My read of the discussion was that the NRI RoseCAP would not be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program as a CAP proposal. There were 2 alternatives presented a) it be withheld for submission as a FY09 NRI CAP proposal and b) it serve as the basis for a larger Coordinated Systems Project (CSP).
2. What role will the RosEXEC play in the Specialty Crop Program grant submission process? It is clear that there will be several proposals submitted from the Rosaceae community to this program. I do not think the RosEXEC can or should try to be a gatekeeper in the grant submission process. Rather, I think we will better serve the community by functioning as a conduit for communication and community organization. I suggest that we a) forward information about the Specialty Crop Program to the entire US Rosaceae community through the GDR and b) we request community members to make us aware if they plan to submit a proposal to the program, the type of proposal they plan to submit, and the project objectives. The RosEXEC could then make PIs aware of other members of the community with similar objectives to facilitate team building. The PIs could then determine for themselves if team building makes sense or they wish to submit competing or different proposals.
3. Will the RosEXEC attempt to coordinate the submission of a single CSP from the Rosaceae community or leave it to individual community members to organize their own proposals?
Best regards, Jay Norelli
________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [mailto:rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Gennaro Fazio Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:40 PM To: rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; 'Amit Dhingra'; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; 'Jim Luby'; Volk, Gayle; 'Sue Gardiner'; 'Jasper Rees'; 'Dan Sargent (EMR)'; eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Norelli, Jay; 'Bert Abbott' Subject: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US Importance: High
Hello RosEXEC,
There were three people that had a slight time problem so if it is OK with the rest of you we'll start 45 min later. So same date (Monday June 2) but at 4:15 PM.
I will log on at 3:30 PM just in case someone does not get this Email or if someone needs to communicate something to the group but cannot make it at the later time - trying to be as accommodating as possible. I appreciate your patience and service.
Below are the instructions for logging in to the conference system - they have not changed from last time. Talk to you then.
All the best, Gennaro
PARTICIPANT ACCESS INFORMATION:
-------------------------------
PARTICIPANT PASSCODE: 2402523
TO JOIN A CONFERENCE
1) You must use a touch-tone phone to participate in an Instant Meeting
Conference.
2) Dial the appropriate access number
3) Enter numeric passcode followed by a "#"
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LEADER & PARTICIPANT ACCESS INFORMATION
---------------------------------------
Click http://www.mymeetings.com/audioconferencing/globalAccessFAQ.php for information on specific country access dialing.
Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number
ARGENTINA 0800-777-0515
AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4883 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7754 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5264 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8123 1-800-659-380
AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-120 0800-005-266
BELGIUM 32-2-400-9824 0800-3-8744
BRAZIL 0800-8911988
CHILE 1230-020-2638
CHINA* 10800-712-1677
10800-120-1677
COLOMBIA 01800-9-156477
CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-73 800-700-235
DENMARK 45-7014-0300 8088-8304
FINLAND 358-106-33-205 0-800-9-14607
FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-76-74-24-94 080-563-6110
GERMANY 49-69-2222-4873 0800-664-4254
GREECE 30-80-1-100-0698 00800-12-7310
HONG KONG 852-2286-5729 800-933-921
HUNGARY 06-800-13830
INDIA 000-800-852-1264
INDONESIA 001-803-011-3973
IRELAND 353-1-247-5678 1800-992-935
ISRAEL 1-80-9216159
ITALY 39-02-3600-6016 800-986-993
JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4783 0044-22-132424
JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5187 0044-22-132424
LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1384
MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3069
MEXICO 001-866-295-6360
NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8596 0800-023-1812
NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4767 0800-450-789
NORWAY 47-21-590-072 800-15308
PANAMA 011-001-800-5072111
POLAND 00-800-1212569
PORTUGAL 8008-14054
RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0114011
SINGAPORE 65-6883-9226 800-120-4675
SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-39
SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80424
SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1079 00798-14800-7189
SPAIN 34-91-414-25-40 800-300-060
SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-397 0200-884-614
SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6402 0800-120-039
TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7375 00801-137-796
THAILAND 001-800-1206-66050
UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9039 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3239 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2139 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-3043-2499 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1439 0808-238-6019
URUGUAY 000-413-598-3460
USA 1-517-466-2232 866-692-3582
VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3782
Gennaro Fazio, PhD Apple Rootstock Breeder and Geneticist Plant Genetic Resources Unit USDA ARS Cornell University - 630 W. North St. Geneva, NY 14456 (315) 787-2480 Office (315) 787-2216 Fax
I could not be on the c-call... inaccessible this week.
I hope that RosEXEC has a minimal role in gatekeeping/organizing etc. We each know the players and the best way to pursue teambuilding. Why broadcast our intentions to the rest of the world when they aren't showing their cards? Especially innovative topics (that may arise) from Rosaceae proposals should be kept under the hat, especially with the short time frame.
kevin ________________________________ From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Norelli, Jay [Jay.Norelli@ARS.USDA.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:36 AM To: gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Hello RosEXEC,
Excellent discussion yesterday. In our next conference call I suggest we try to focus on resolving some specific questions. Here are my top 3:
1. Will the FY08 NRI RoseCAP be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program ? My read of the discussion was that the NRI RoseCAP would not be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program as a CAP proposal. There were 2 alternatives presented a) it be withheld for submission as a FY09 NRI CAP proposal and b) it serve as the basis for a larger Coordinated Systems Project (CSP).
2. What role will the RosEXEC play in the Specialty Crop Program grant submission process? It is clear that there will be several proposals submitted from the Rosaceae community to this program. I do not think the RosEXEC can or should try to be a gatekeeper in the grant submission process. Rather, I think we will better serve the community by functioning as a conduit for communication and community organization. I suggest that we a) forward information about the Specialty Crop Program to the entire US Rosaceae community through the GDR and b) we request community members to make us aware if they plan to submit a proposal to the program, the type of proposal they plan to submit, and the project objectives. The RosEXEC could then make PIs aware of other members of the community with similar objectives to facilitate team building. The PIs could then determine for themselves if team building makes sense or they wish to submit competing or different proposals.
3. Will the RosEXEC attempt to coordinate the submission of a single CSP from the Rosaceae community or leave it to individual community members to organize their own proposals?
Best regards, Jay Norelli
________________________________ From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [mailto:rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Gennaro Fazio Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:40 PM To: rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; 'Amit Dhingra'; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; 'Jim Luby'; Volk, Gayle; 'Sue Gardiner'; 'Jasper Rees'; 'Dan Sargent (EMR)'; eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Norelli, Jay; 'Bert Abbott' Subject: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US Importance: High
Hello RosEXEC, There were three people that had a slight time problem so if it is OK with the rest of you we’ll start 45 min later. So same date (Monday June 2) but at 4:15 PM.
I will log on at 3:30 PM just in case someone does not get this Email or if someone needs to communicate something to the group but cannot make it at the later time – trying to be as accommodating as possible. I appreciate your patience and service.
Below are the instructions for logging in to the conference system – they have not changed from last time. Talk to you then.
All the best, Gennaro
PARTICIPANT ACCESS INFORMATION: -------------------------------
PARTICIPANT PASSCODE: 2402523
TO JOIN A CONFERENCE 1) You must use a touch-tone phone to participate in an Instant Meeting Conference. 2) Dial the appropriate access number 3) Enter numeric passcode followed by a "#"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LEADER & PARTICIPANT ACCESS INFORMATION ---------------------------------------
Click http://www.mymeetings.com/audioconferencing/globalAccessFAQ.php for information on specific country access dialing.
Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number
ARGENTINA 0800-777-0515 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4883 1-800-659-380 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0985 1-800-659-380 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1985 1-800-659-380 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7754 1-800-659-380 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5264 1-800-659-380 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8123 1-800-659-380 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-120 0800-005-266 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9824 0800-3-8744 BRAZIL 0800-8911988 CHILE 1230-020-2638 CHINA* 10800-712-1677 10800-120-1677 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156477 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-73 800-700-235 DENMARK 45-7014-0300 8088-8304 FINLAND 358-106-33-205 0-800-9-14607 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-99 080-563-6110 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-99 080-563-6110 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-76-74-24-94 080-563-6110 GERMANY 49-69-2222-4873 0800-664-4254 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0698 00800-12-7310 HONG KONG 852-2286-5729 800-933-921 HUNGARY 06-800-13830 INDIA 000-800-852-1264 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3973 IRELAND 353-1-247-5678 1800-992-935 ISRAEL 1-80-9216159 ITALY 39-02-3600-6016 800-986-993 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4783 0044-22-132424 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5187 0044-22-132424 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1384 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3069 MEXICO 001-866-295-6360 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8596 0800-023-1812 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4767 0800-450-789 NORWAY 47-21-590-072 800-15308 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072111 POLAND 00-800-1212569 PORTUGAL 8008-14054 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0114011 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9226 800-120-4675 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-39 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80424 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1079 00798-14800-7189 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-40 800-300-060 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-397 0200-884-614 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6402 0800-120-039 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7375 00801-137-796 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66050 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9039 0808-238-6019 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3239 0808-238-6019 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2139 0808-238-6019 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-3043-2499 0808-238-6019 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1439 0808-238-6019 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3460 USA 1-517-466-2232 866-692-3582 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3782
Gennaro Fazio, PhD Apple Rootstock Breeder and Geneticist Plant Genetic Resources Unit USDA ARS Cornell University - 630 W. North St. Geneva, NY 14456 (315) 787-2480 Office (315) 787-2216 Fax
Stating your general objectives does not reveal much of your hand.
Does the RosEXEC have no role to play in facilitating the community's response to this granting opportunity? PIs could choose to not reveal the details of their proposals to other PIs. If the community is so competitive that we do not even want to reveal our intentions to submit a proposal, can the RosEXEC expect to do much more than periodically revise the White Paper.
________________________________
From: Folta, Kevin M. [mailto:kfolta@ufl.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:07 PM To: Norelli, Jay; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: RE: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
I could not be on the c-call... inaccessible this week.
I hope that RosEXEC has a minimal role in gatekeeping/organizing etc. We each know the players and the best way to pursue teambuilding. Why broadcast our intentions to the rest of the world when they aren't showing their cards? Especially innovative topics (that may arise) from Rosaceae proposals should be kept under the hat, especially with the short time frame.
kevin ________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Norelli, Jay [Jay.Norelli@ARS.USDA.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:36 AM To: gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Hello RosEXEC,
Excellent discussion yesterday. In our next conference call I suggest we try to focus on resolving some specific questions. Here are my top 3:
1. Will the FY08 NRI RoseCAP be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program ? My read of the discussion was that the NRI RoseCAP would not be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program as a CAP proposal. There were 2 alternatives presented a) it be withheld for submission as a FY09 NRI CAP proposal and b) it serve as the basis for a larger Coordinated Systems Project (CSP).
2. What role will the RosEXEC play in the Specialty Crop Program grant submission process? It is clear that there will be several proposals submitted from the Rosaceae community to this program. I do not think the RosEXEC can or should try to be a gatekeeper in the grant submission process. Rather, I think we will better serve the community by functioning as a conduit for communication and community organization. I suggest that we a) forward information about the Specialty Crop Program to the entire US Rosaceae community through the GDR and b) we request community members to make us aware if they plan to submit a proposal to the program, the type of proposal they plan to submit, and the project objectives. The RosEXEC could then make PIs aware of other members of the community with similar objectives to facilitate team building. The PIs could then determine for themselves if team building makes sense or they wish to submit competing or different proposals.
3. Will the RosEXEC attempt to coordinate the submission of a single CSP from the Rosaceae community or leave it to individual community members to organize their own proposals?
Best regards, Jay Norelli
________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [mailto:rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Gennaro Fazio Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:40 PM To: rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; 'Amit Dhingra'; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; 'Jim Luby'; Volk, Gayle; 'Sue Gardiner'; 'Jasper Rees'; 'Dan Sargent (EMR)'; eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Norelli, Jay; 'Bert Abbott' Subject: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US Importance: High
Hello RosEXEC,
There were three people that had a slight time problem so if it is OK with the rest of you we'll start 45 min later. So same date (Monday June 2) but at 4:15 PM.
I will log on at 3:30 PM just in case someone does not get this Email or if someone needs to communicate something to the group but cannot make it at the later time - trying to be as accommodating as possible. I appreciate your patience and service.
Below are the instructions for logging in to the conference system - they have not changed from last time. Talk to you then.
All the best, Gennaro
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AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4883 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7754 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5264 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8123 1-800-659-380
AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-120 0800-005-266
BELGIUM 32-2-400-9824 0800-3-8744
BRAZIL 0800-8911988
CHILE 1230-020-2638
CHINA* 10800-712-1677
10800-120-1677
COLOMBIA 01800-9-156477
CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-73 800-700-235
DENMARK 45-7014-0300 8088-8304
FINLAND 358-106-33-205 0-800-9-14607
FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-76-74-24-94 080-563-6110
GERMANY 49-69-2222-4873 0800-664-4254
GREECE 30-80-1-100-0698 00800-12-7310
HONG KONG 852-2286-5729 800-933-921
HUNGARY 06-800-13830
INDIA 000-800-852-1264
INDONESIA 001-803-011-3973
IRELAND 353-1-247-5678 1800-992-935
ISRAEL 1-80-9216159
ITALY 39-02-3600-6016 800-986-993
JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4783 0044-22-132424
JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5187 0044-22-132424
LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1384
MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3069
MEXICO 001-866-295-6360
NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8596 0800-023-1812
NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4767 0800-450-789
NORWAY 47-21-590-072 800-15308
PANAMA 011-001-800-5072111
POLAND 00-800-1212569
PORTUGAL 8008-14054
RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0114011
SINGAPORE 65-6883-9226 800-120-4675
SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-39
SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80424
SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1079 00798-14800-7189
SPAIN 34-91-414-25-40 800-300-060
SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-397 0200-884-614
SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6402 0800-120-039
TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7375 00801-137-796
THAILAND 001-800-1206-66050
UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9039 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3239 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2139 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-3043-2499 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1439 0808-238-6019
URUGUAY 000-413-598-3460
USA 1-517-466-2232 866-692-3582
VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3782
Gennaro Fazio, PhD Apple Rootstock Breeder and Geneticist Plant Genetic Resources Unit USDA ARS Cornell University - 630 W. North St. Geneva, NY 14456 (315) 787-2480 Office (315) 787-2216 Fax
I too missed the call but I strongly agree with Jay. Remember why RosEXEC was formed in the first place. RosEXEC should not be a gateway for individual proposals but it is essential that we know (in general) what people are doing in order to coordinate larger integrated projects. We undermine ourselves if, for example, in RosCAP we propose to develop SNP profiling tools and someone secretly has already done it. Like Jay said, we are looking for general goals not details.
It was probably discussed during the meeting but I think we should wait for the RFA before making any decisions on RosCAP or other projects. As far as waiting until 2009 for RosCAP, we would be passing up a big opportunity.
Chris ________________________________
From: Norelli, Jay Sent: Tue 6/3/2008 12:32 PM To: Folta, Kevin M.; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: RE: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Stating your general objectives does not reveal much of your hand.
Does the RosEXEC have no role to play in facilitating the community's response to this granting opportunity? PIs could choose to not reveal the details of their proposals to other PIs. If the community is so competitive that we do not even want to reveal our intentions to submit a proposal, can the RosEXEC expect to do much more than periodically revise the White Paper.
________________________________
From: Folta, Kevin M. [mailto:kfolta@ufl.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:07 PM To: Norelli, Jay; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: RE: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
I could not be on the c-call... inaccessible this week.
I hope that RosEXEC has a minimal role in gatekeeping/organizing etc. We each know the players and the best way to pursue teambuilding. Why broadcast our intentions to the rest of the world when they aren't showing their cards? Especially innovative topics (that may arise) from Rosaceae proposals should be kept under the hat, especially with the short time frame.
kevin ________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Norelli, Jay [Jay.Norelli@ARS.USDA.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:36 AM To: gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Hello RosEXEC,
Excellent discussion yesterday. In our next conference call I suggest we try to focus on resolving some specific questions. Here are my top 3:
1. Will the FY08 NRI RoseCAP be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program ? My read of the discussion was that the NRI RoseCAP would not be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program as a CAP proposal. There were 2 alternatives presented a) it be withheld for submission as a FY09 NRI CAP proposal and b) it serve as the basis for a larger Coordinated Systems Project (CSP).
2. What role will the RosEXEC play in the Specialty Crop Program grant submission process? It is clear that there will be several proposals submitted from the Rosaceae community to this program. I do not think the RosEXEC can or should try to be a gatekeeper in the grant submission process. Rather, I think we will better serve the community by functioning as a conduit for communication and community organization. I suggest that we a) forward information about the Specialty Crop Program to the entire US Rosaceae community through the GDR and b) we request community members to make us aware if they plan to submit a proposal to the program, the type of proposal they plan to submit, and the project objectives. The RosEXEC could then make PIs aware of other members of the community with similar objectives to facilitate team building. The PIs could then determine for themselves if team building makes sense or they wish to submit competing or different proposals.
3. Will the RosEXEC attempt to coordinate the submission of a single CSP from the Rosaceae community or leave it to individual community members to organize their own proposals?
Best regards, Jay Norelli
________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [mailto:rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Gennaro Fazio Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:40 PM To: rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; 'Amit Dhingra'; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; 'Jim Luby'; Volk, Gayle; 'Sue Gardiner'; 'Jasper Rees'; 'Dan Sargent (EMR)'; eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Norelli, Jay; 'Bert Abbott' Subject: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US Importance: High
Hello RosEXEC,
There were three people that had a slight time problem so if it is OK with the rest of you we'll start 45 min later. So same date (Monday June 2) but at 4:15 PM.
I will log on at 3:30 PM just in case someone does not get this Email or if someone needs to communicate something to the group but cannot make it at the later time - trying to be as accommodating as possible. I appreciate your patience and service.
Below are the instructions for logging in to the conference system - they have not changed from last time. Talk to you then.
All the best, Gennaro
PARTICIPANT ACCESS INFORMATION:
-------------------------------
PARTICIPANT PASSCODE: 2402523
TO JOIN A CONFERENCE
1) You must use a touch-tone phone to participate in an Instant Meeting
Conference.
2) Dial the appropriate access number
3) Enter numeric passcode followed by a "#"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LEADER & PARTICIPANT ACCESS INFORMATION
---------------------------------------
Click http://www.mymeetings.com/audioconferencing/globalAccessFAQ.php for information on specific country access dialing.
Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number
ARGENTINA 0800-777-0515
AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4883 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7754 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5264 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8123 1-800-659-380
AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-120 0800-005-266
BELGIUM 32-2-400-9824 0800-3-8744
BRAZIL 0800-8911988
CHILE 1230-020-2638
CHINA* 10800-712-1677
10800-120-1677
COLOMBIA 01800-9-156477
CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-73 800-700-235
DENMARK 45-7014-0300 8088-8304
FINLAND 358-106-33-205 0-800-9-14607
FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-76-74-24-94 080-563-6110
GERMANY 49-69-2222-4873 0800-664-4254
GREECE 30-80-1-100-0698 00800-12-7310
HONG KONG 852-2286-5729 800-933-921
HUNGARY 06-800-13830
INDIA 000-800-852-1264
INDONESIA 001-803-011-3973
IRELAND 353-1-247-5678 1800-992-935
ISRAEL 1-80-9216159
ITALY 39-02-3600-6016 800-986-993
JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4783 0044-22-132424
JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5187 0044-22-132424
LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1384
MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3069
MEXICO 001-866-295-6360
NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8596 0800-023-1812
NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4767 0800-450-789
NORWAY 47-21-590-072 800-15308
PANAMA 011-001-800-5072111
POLAND 00-800-1212569
PORTUGAL 8008-14054
RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0114011
SINGAPORE 65-6883-9226 800-120-4675
SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-39
SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80424
SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1079 00798-14800-7189
SPAIN 34-91-414-25-40 800-300-060
SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-397 0200-884-614
SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6402 0800-120-039
TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7375 00801-137-796
THAILAND 001-800-1206-66050
UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9039 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3239 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2139 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-3043-2499 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1439 0808-238-6019
URUGUAY 000-413-598-3460
USA 1-517-466-2232 866-692-3582
VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3782
Gennaro Fazio, PhD Apple Rootstock Breeder and Geneticist Plant Genetic Resources Unit USDA ARS Cornell University - 630 W. North St. Geneva, NY 14456 (315) 787-2480 Office (315) 787-2216 Fax
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From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu on behalf of Dardick, Chris Sent: Tue 6/3/2008 9:47 AM To: Norelli, Jay; Folta, Kevin M.; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Dhingra, Amit; Bassil, Nahla; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conferencecall-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
I too missed the call but I strongly agree with Jay. Remember why RosEXEC was formed in the first place. RosEXEC should not be a gateway for individual proposals but it is essential that we know (in general) what people are doing in order to coordinate larger integrated projects. We undermine ourselves if, for example, in RosCAP we propose to develop SNP profiling tools and someone secretly has already done it. Like Jay said, we are looking for general goals not details.
It was probably discussed during the meeting but I think we should wait for the RFA before making any decisions on RosCAP or other projects. As far as waiting until 2009 for RosCAP, we would be passing up a big opportunity.
Chris ________________________________
From: Norelli, Jay Sent: Tue 6/3/2008 12:32 PM To: Folta, Kevin M.; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: RE: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Stating your general objectives does not reveal much of your hand.
Does the RosEXEC have no role to play in facilitating the community's response to this granting opportunity? PIs could choose to not reveal the details of their proposals to other PIs. If the community is so competitive that we do not even want to reveal our intentions to submit a proposal, can the RosEXEC expect to do much more than periodically revise the White Paper.
________________________________
From: Folta, Kevin M. [mailto:kfolta@ufl.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:07 PM To: Norelli, Jay; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: RE: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
I could not be on the c-call... inaccessible this week.
I hope that RosEXEC has a minimal role in gatekeeping/organizing etc. We each know the players and the best way to pursue teambuilding. Why broadcast our intentions to the rest of the world when they aren't showing their cards? Especially innovative topics (that may arise) from Rosaceae proposals should be kept under the hat, especially with the short time frame.
kevin ________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Norelli, Jay [Jay.Norelli@ARS.USDA.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:36 AM To: gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Hello RosEXEC,
Excellent discussion yesterday. In our next conference call I suggest we try to focus on resolving some specific questions. Here are my top 3:
1. Will the FY08 NRI RoseCAP be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program ? My read of the discussion was that the NRI RoseCAP would not be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program as a CAP proposal. There were 2 alternatives presented a) it be withheld for submission as a FY09 NRI CAP proposal and b) it serve as the basis for a larger Coordinated Systems Project (CSP).
2. What role will the RosEXEC play in the Specialty Crop Program grant submission process? It is clear that there will be several proposals submitted from the Rosaceae community to this program. I do not think the RosEXEC can or should try to be a gatekeeper in the grant submission process. Rather, I think we will better serve the community by functioning as a conduit for communication and community organization. I suggest that we a) forward information about the Specialty Crop Program to the entire US Rosaceae community through the GDR and b) we request community members to make us aware if they plan to submit a proposal to the program, the type of proposal they plan to submit, and the project objectives. The RosEXEC could then make PIs aware of other members of the community with similar objectives to facilitate team building. The PIs could then determine for themselves if team building makes sense or they wish to submit competing or different proposals.
3. Will the RosEXEC attempt to coordinate the submission of a single CSP from the Rosaceae community or leave it to individual community members to organize their own proposals?
Best regards, Jay Norelli
________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [mailto:rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Gennaro Fazio Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:40 PM To: rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; 'Amit Dhingra'; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; 'Jim Luby'; Volk, Gayle; 'Sue Gardiner'; 'Jasper Rees'; 'Dan Sargent (EMR)'; eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Norelli, Jay; 'Bert Abbott' Subject: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US Importance: High
Hello RosEXEC,
There were three people that had a slight time problem so if it is OK with the rest of you we'll start 45 min later. So same date (Monday June 2) but at 4:15 PM.
I will log on at 3:30 PM just in case someone does not get this Email or if someone needs to communicate something to the group but cannot make it at the later time - trying to be as accommodating as possible. I appreciate your patience and service.
Below are the instructions for logging in to the conference system - they have not changed from last time. Talk to you then.
All the best, Gennaro
PARTICIPANT ACCESS INFORMATION:
-------------------------------
PARTICIPANT PASSCODE: 2402523
TO JOIN A CONFERENCE
1) You must use a touch-tone phone to participate in an Instant Meeting
Conference.
2) Dial the appropriate access number
3) Enter numeric passcode followed by a "#"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LEADER & PARTICIPANT ACCESS INFORMATION
---------------------------------------
Click http://www.mymeetings.com/audioconferencing/globalAccessFAQ.php for information on specific country access dialing.
Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number
ARGENTINA 0800-777-0515
AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4883 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1985 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7754 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5264 1-800-659-380
AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8123 1-800-659-380
AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-120 0800-005-266
BELGIUM 32-2-400-9824 0800-3-8744
BRAZIL 0800-8911988
CHILE 1230-020-2638
CHINA* 10800-712-1677
10800-120-1677
COLOMBIA 01800-9-156477
CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-73 800-700-235
DENMARK 45-7014-0300 8088-8304
FINLAND 358-106-33-205 0-800-9-14607
FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-99 080-563-6110
FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-76-74-24-94 080-563-6110
GERMANY 49-69-2222-4873 0800-664-4254
GREECE 30-80-1-100-0698 00800-12-7310
HONG KONG 852-2286-5729 800-933-921
HUNGARY 06-800-13830
INDIA 000-800-852-1264
INDONESIA 001-803-011-3973
IRELAND 353-1-247-5678 1800-992-935
ISRAEL 1-80-9216159
ITALY 39-02-3600-6016 800-986-993
JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4783 0044-22-132424
JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5187 0044-22-132424
LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1384
MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3069
MEXICO 001-866-295-6360
NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8596 0800-023-1812
NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4767 0800-450-789
NORWAY 47-21-590-072 800-15308
PANAMA 011-001-800-5072111
POLAND 00-800-1212569
PORTUGAL 8008-14054
RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0114011
SINGAPORE 65-6883-9226 800-120-4675
SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-39
SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80424
SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1079 00798-14800-7189
SPAIN 34-91-414-25-40 800-300-060
SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-397 0200-884-614
SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6402 0800-120-039
TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7375 00801-137-796
THAILAND 001-800-1206-66050
UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9039 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3239 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2139 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-3043-2499 0808-238-6019
UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1439 0808-238-6019
URUGUAY 000-413-598-3460
USA 1-517-466-2232 866-692-3582
VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3782
Gennaro Fazio, PhD Apple Rootstock Breeder and Geneticist Plant Genetic Resources Unit USDA ARS Cornell University - 630 W. North St. Geneva, NY 14456 (315) 787-2480 Office (315) 787-2216 Fax
Hi,
Amendment to issue #1 I raised yesterday: RosEXEC should not decide fate of RoseCAP, but should help facilitate a community based decision. RoseCAP was a community effort and I think we need to get input from the people who made a major contribution to the proposal and are not represented on RosEXEC. Can the PIs facilitate this? In the end, the final decision regarding the RoseCAP should rest with the PIs.
Jay
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From: Dardick, Chris Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:47 PM To: Norelli, Jay; Folta, Kevin M.; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: RE: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
I too missed the call but I strongly agree with Jay. Remember why RosEXEC was formed in the first place. RosEXEC should not be a gateway for individual proposals but it is essential that we know (in general) what people are doing in order to coordinate larger integrated projects. We undermine ourselves if, for example, in RosCAP we propose to develop SNP profiling tools and someone secretly has already done it. Like Jay said, we are looking for general goals not details.
It was probably discussed during the meeting but I think we should wait for the RFA before making any decisions on RosCAP or other projects. As far as waiting until 2009 for RosCAP, we would be passing up a big opportunity.
Chris ________________________________
From: Norelli, Jay Sent: Tue 6/3/2008 12:32 PM To: Folta, Kevin M.; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: RE: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Stating your general objectives does not reveal much of your hand.
Does the RosEXEC have no role to play in facilitating the community's response to this granting opportunity? PIs could choose to not reveal the details of their proposals to other PIs. If the community is so competitive that we do not even want to reveal our intentions to submit a proposal, can the RosEXEC expect to do much more than periodically revise the White Paper.
________________________________
From: Folta, Kevin M. [mailto:kfolta@ufl.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:07 PM To: Norelli, Jay; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: RE: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
I could not be on the c-call... inaccessible this week.
I hope that RosEXEC has a minimal role in gatekeeping/organizing etc. We each know the players and the best way to pursue teambuilding. Why broadcast our intentions to the rest of the world when they aren't showing their cards? Especially innovative topics (that may arise) from Rosaceae proposals should be kept under the hat, especially with the short time frame.
kevin ________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Norelli, Jay [Jay.Norelli@ARS.USDA.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:36 AM To: gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Hello RosEXEC,
Excellent discussion yesterday. In our next conference call I suggest we try to focus on resolving some specific questions. Here are my top 3:
1. Will the FY08 NRI RoseCAP be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program ? My read of the discussion was that the NRI RoseCAP would not be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program as a CAP proposal. There were 2 alternatives presented a) it be withheld for submission as a FY09 NRI CAP proposal and b) it serve as the basis for a larger Coordinated Systems Project (CSP).
2. What role will the RosEXEC play in the Specialty Crop Program grant submission process? It is clear that there will be several proposals submitted from the Rosaceae community to this program. I do not think the RosEXEC can or should try to be a gatekeeper in the grant submission process. Rather, I think we will better serve the community by functioning as a conduit for communication and community organization. I suggest that we a) forward information about the Specialty Crop Program to the entire US Rosaceae community through the GDR and b) we request community members to make us aware if they plan to submit a proposal to the program, the type of proposal they plan to submit, and the project objectives. The RosEXEC could then make PIs aware of other members of the community with similar objectives to facilitate team building. The PIs could then determine for themselves if team building makes sense or they wish to submit competing or different proposals.
3. Will the RosEXEC attempt to coordinate the submission of a single CSP from the Rosaceae community or leave it to individual community members to organize their own proposals?
Best regards, Jay Norelli
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From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [mailto:rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Gennaro Fazio Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:40 PM To: rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; 'Amit Dhingra'; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; 'Jim Luby'; Volk, Gayle; 'Sue Gardiner'; 'Jasper Rees'; 'Dan Sargent (EMR)'; eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Norelli, Jay; 'Bert Abbott' Subject: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US Importance: High
Hello RosEXEC,
There were three people that had a slight time problem so if it is OK with the rest of you we'll start 45 min later. So same date (Monday June 2) but at 4:15 PM.
I will log on at 3:30 PM just in case someone does not get this Email or if someone needs to communicate something to the group but cannot make it at the later time - trying to be as accommodating as possible. I appreciate your patience and service.
Below are the instructions for logging in to the conference system - they have not changed from last time. Talk to you then.
All the best, Gennaro
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Gennaro Fazio, PhD Apple Rootstock Breeder and Geneticist Plant Genetic Resources Unit USDA ARS Cornell University - 630 W. North St. Geneva, NY 14456 (315) 787-2480 Office (315) 787-2216 Fax
Hi folks,
I've been away from internet access since our teleconference yesterday. Anne-Marie Thro was at the PGOC meeting in Ft Collins the last couple of days (following our teleconference), and informed Gayle, myself, and a few others in our community about a couple of extra things concerning the Specialty Crops funding opportunity. She also confirmed much of what was conveyed on the teleconference. Yes, the RFA should be out mid June. However, 1) they are probably going to concentrate on the larger project types (i.e. CSP and CAP) this year, and only consider funding specific smaller project proposals if they are very well justified and written. Next year they will focus more on those smaller projects types (less than $1 mil). 2) She believes that there WILL be a matching requirement for these projects (a big challenge with huge projects in a short amount of time, but that reduces the competition if you look on the bright side). This matching fund requirement may be in-kind (salaries, field maintenance, equipment use, etc), but such resources from federal institutions are not counted. So USDA-ARS scientists' time is not counted, nor is other NRI funding.
Regarding the discussion initiated by Jay, I agree with him. RosEXEC should not shy away from its very useful coordination role. This new information above on the likely size of the projects to be funded strongly influences this discussion. What I got out of the teleconference was that in addtion to RosCAP, we have perhaps 3-5 (maybe more) BIG ideas from the Rosaceae community that we could rally around and submit as CAP-level proposals. The role of RosEXEC here would be to recommend the list of these large project ideas and help get people together to put them together. The ones mentioned so far were along the lines of GDR/RING, GRIN-Rosaceae, postharvest genomics-genetics-breeding-production-marketing system, increasing consumer appreciation of Rosaceae products, and a Rosaceae genome consortium.
As for RosCAP, if we are to submit it as a larger CSP-level project, the challenge (opportunity) is to include the distribution/processing and consumer/marketing components. Otherwise, RosCAP submitted as just a large CAP-level proposal might also suit - the important thing is, I think, that it is submitted as a symbol of the wider community's collaboration on a very high plane.
Okay, my plane is leaving now, gotta go.
Cameron
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From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu on behalf of Dardick, Chris Sent: Tue 6/3/2008 9:47 AM To: Norelli, Jay; Folta, Kevin M.; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Dhingra, Amit; Bassil, Nahla; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conferencecall-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
I too missed the call but I strongly agree with Jay. Remember why RosEXEC was formed in the first place. RosEXEC should not be a gateway for individual proposals but it is essential that we know (in general) what people are doing in order to coordinate larger integrated projects. We undermine ourselves if, for example, in RosCAP we propose to develop SNP profiling tools and someone secretly has already done it. Like Jay said, we are looking for general goals not details.
It was probably discussed during the meeting but I think we should wait for the RFA before making any decisions on RosCAP or other projects. As far as waiting until 2009 for RosCAP, we would be passing up a big opportunity.
Chris
________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu on behalf of Norelli, Jay Sent: Tue 6/3/2008 9:32 AM To: Folta, Kevin M.; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Dhingra, Amit; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conferencecall-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Stating your general objectives does not reveal much of your hand.
Does the RosEXEC have no role to play in facilitating the community's response to this granting opportunity? PIs could choose to not reveal the details of their proposals to other PIs. If the community is so competitive that we do not even want to reveal our intentions to submit a proposal, can the RosEXEC expect to do much more than periodically revise the White Paper.
________________________________
From: Folta, Kevin M. [mailto:kfolta@ufl.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:07 PM To: Norelli, Jay; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: RE: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
I could not be on the c-call... inaccessible this week.
I hope that RosEXEC has a minimal role in gatekeeping/organizing etc. We each know the players and the best way to pursue teambuilding. Why broadcast our intentions to the rest of the world when they aren't showing their cards? Especially innovative topics (that may arise) from Rosaceae proposals should be kept under the hat, especially with the short time frame.
kevin ________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Norelli, Jay [Jay.Norelli@ARS.USDA.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:36 AM To: gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Hello RosEXEC,
Excellent discussion yesterday. In our next conference call I suggest we try to focus on resolving some specific questions. Here are my top 3:
1. Will the FY08 NRI RoseCAP be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program ? My read of the discussion was that the NRI RoseCAP would not be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program as a CAP proposal. There were 2 alternatives presented a) it be withheld for submission as a FY09 NRI CAP proposal and b) it serve as the basis for a larger Coordinated Systems Project (CSP).
2. What role will the RosEXEC play in the Specialty Crop Program grant submission process? It is clear that there will be several proposals submitted from the Rosaceae community to this program. I do not think the RosEXEC can or should try to be a gatekeeper in the grant submission process. Rather, I think we will better serve the community by functioning as a conduit for communication and community organization. I suggest that we a) forward information about the Specialty Crop Program to the entire US Rosaceae community through the GDR and b) we request community members to make us aware if they plan to submit a proposal to the program, the type of proposal they plan to submit, and the project objectives. The RosEXEC could then make PIs aware of other members of the community with similar objectives to facilitate team building. The PIs could then determine for themselves if team building makes sense or they wish to submit competing or different proposals.
3. Will the RosEXEC attempt to coordinate the submission of a single CSP from the Rosaceae community or leave it to individual community members to organize their own proposals?
Best regards, Jay Norelli
I just wanted to clarify the issue on matching funds. We have been told by NPS that the language in the bill will likely be ammended so that ARS labs will be able to effectively compete for funding. It's not clear how it will be re-written but they said the intent of the bill was to be as inclusive as possible.
Chris
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From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu on behalf of Peace, Cameron Sent: Tue 6/3/2008 9:38 PM To: rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu Subject: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Specialty Crops funding opportunity
Hi folks,
I've been away from internet access since our teleconference yesterday. Anne-Marie Thro was at the PGOC meeting in Ft Collins the last couple of days (following our teleconference), and informed Gayle, myself, and a few others in our community about a couple of extra things concerning the Specialty Crops funding opportunity. She also confirmed much of what was conveyed on the teleconference. Yes, the RFA should be out mid June. However, 1) they are probably going to concentrate on the larger project types (i.e. CSP and CAP) this year, and only consider funding specific smaller project proposals if they are very well justified and written. Next year they will focus more on those smaller projects types (less than $1 mil). 2) She believes that there WILL be a matching requirement for these projects (a big challenge with huge projects in a short amount of time, but that reduces the competition if you look on the bright side). This matching fund requirement may be in-kind (salaries, field maintenance, equipment use, etc), but such resources from federal institutions are not counted. So USDA-ARS scientists' time is not counted, nor is other NRI funding.
Regarding the discussion initiated by Jay, I agree with him. RosEXEC should not shy away from its very useful coordination role. This new information above on the likely size of the projects to be funded strongly influences this discussion. What I got out of the teleconference was that in addtion to RosCAP, we have perhaps 3-5 (maybe more) BIG ideas from the Rosaceae community that we could rally around and submit as CAP-level proposals. The role of RosEXEC here would be to recommend the list of these large project ideas and help get people together to put them together. The ones mentioned so far were along the lines of GDR/RING, GRIN-Rosaceae, postharvest genomics-genetics-breeding-production-marketing system, increasing consumer appreciation of Rosaceae products, and a Rosaceae genome consortium.
As for RosCAP, if we are to submit it as a larger CSP-level project, the challenge (opportunity) is to include the distribution/processing and consumer/marketing components. Otherwise, RosCAP submitted as just a large CAP-level proposal might also suit - the important thing is, I think, that it is submitted as a symbol of the wider community's collaboration on a very high plane.
Okay, my plane is leaving now, gotta go.
Cameron
________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu on behalf of Dardick, Chris Sent: Tue 6/3/2008 9:47 AM To: Norelli, Jay; Folta, Kevin M.; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Dhingra, Amit; Bassil, Nahla; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conferencecall-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
I too missed the call but I strongly agree with Jay. Remember why RosEXEC was formed in the first place. RosEXEC should not be a gateway for individual proposals but it is essential that we know (in general) what people are doing in order to coordinate larger integrated projects. We undermine ourselves if, for example, in RosCAP we propose to develop SNP profiling tools and someone secretly has already done it. Like Jay said, we are looking for general goals not details.
It was probably discussed during the meeting but I think we should wait for the RFA before making any decisions on RosCAP or other projects. As far as waiting until 2009 for RosCAP, we would be passing up a big opportunity.
Chris
________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu on behalf of Norelli, Jay Sent: Tue 6/3/2008 9:32 AM To: Folta, Kevin M.; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Dhingra, Amit; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conferencecall-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Stating your general objectives does not reveal much of your hand.
Does the RosEXEC have no role to play in facilitating the community's response to this granting opportunity? PIs could choose to not reveal the details of their proposals to other PIs. If the community is so competitive that we do not even want to reveal our intentions to submit a proposal, can the RosEXEC expect to do much more than periodically revise the White Paper.
________________________________
From: Folta, Kevin M. [mailto:kfolta@ufl.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:07 PM To: Norelli, Jay; gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: RE: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call-Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
I could not be on the c-call... inaccessible this week.
I hope that RosEXEC has a minimal role in gatekeeping/organizing etc. We each know the players and the best way to pursue teambuilding. Why broadcast our intentions to the rest of the world when they aren't showing their cards? Especially innovative topics (that may arise) from Rosaceae proposals should be kept under the hat, especially with the short time frame.
kevin ________________________________
From: rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu [rosexec-list-bounces@mail.bioinfo.wsu.edu] On Behalf Of Norelli, Jay [Jay.Norelli@ARS.USDA.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:36 AM To: gf35@cornell.edu; rosexec-list@bioinfo.wsu.edu; Amit Dhingra; Bassil, Nahla; Dardick, Chris; Jim Luby; Volk, Gayle; Sue Gardiner; Jasper Rees; Dan Sargent (EMR); eric.vandeweg@wur.nl Cc: Bert Abbott Subject: Re: [ROSEXEC-LIST] Slight Time Change ### RosEXEC Conference call -Date:Monday June 2 Time NOW 4:15 PM Eastern US
Hello RosEXEC,
Excellent discussion yesterday. In our next conference call I suggest we try to focus on resolving some specific questions. Here are my top 3:
1. Will the FY08 NRI RoseCAP be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program ? My read of the discussion was that the NRI RoseCAP would not be submitted to the Specialty Crop Program as a CAP proposal. There were 2 alternatives presented a) it be withheld for submission as a FY09 NRI CAP proposal and b) it serve as the basis for a larger Coordinated Systems Project (CSP).
2. What role will the RosEXEC play in the Specialty Crop Program grant submission process? It is clear that there will be several proposals submitted from the Rosaceae community to this program. I do not think the RosEXEC can or should try to be a gatekeeper in the grant submission process. Rather, I think we will better serve the community by functioning as a conduit for communication and community organization. I suggest that we a) forward information about the Specialty Crop Program to the entire US Rosaceae community through the GDR and b) we request community members to make us aware if they plan to submit a proposal to the program, the type of proposal they plan to submit, and the project objectives. The RosEXEC could then make PIs aware of other members of the community with similar objectives to facilitate team building. The PIs could then determine for themselves if team building makes sense or they wish to submit competing or different proposals.
3. Will the RosEXEC attempt to coordinate the submission of a single CSP from the Rosaceae community or leave it to individual community members to organize their own proposals?
Best regards, Jay Norelli
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